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Title: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on May 19, 2016, 02:57:49 AM
 Well it's been awhile since I have been on this forum. One thing that I have seen from time to time is someone suggesting going edis with the 22RE and mega squirt. If you are new and don't know what edis is in short it replaces the distributor with a crank triggered ignition system that is superior in accuracy. The best way I can describe it is like this - a distributor is like measuring with a ruler. Edis is like measuring with a micrometer.  Few have done it on the 22RE . and no one makes a kit for it.

 I am hoping to change that .

I have been using this last year to tool up and R&D. I have some pics of the prototype. I will post them soon.  I will also try to keep updating this thread as much as possible.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on May 19, 2016, 03:51:00 AM
 sneak peek (http://www.22rte-trucks.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10405/thumb_1456264541789.jpg)
this pick is the early version . I used plastic for this one for easy of manufacture . The prototype is out of 6061 aluminum.
(http://www.22rte-trucks.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10405/thumb_20160504_210421.jpg)

I will have more soon.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on May 23, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
I got some more done this weekend . After some assembly I discovered I needed to make some adjustments though so the pics aren't the latest. However I will be doing some anodizing soon.  I am thinking a nice red will be perfect. Since its my first time anodizing I will have to test on some scrap aluminum first.
here are some more pics of my progress
(http://www.22rte-trucks.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10405/normal_20160507_225947.jpg)
(http://www.22rte-trucks.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10405/normal_20160515_142633.jpg)
(http://www.22rte-trucks.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10405/normal_20160515_154355.jpg)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on June 14, 2016, 02:49:23 AM
Wow the last few weeks have been hot and really humid here in Florida. I have been sidetracked trying to beat the heat. Hopefully I will be back on track soon . I am looking forward to trying my hand at aluminum anodizing. YouTube has a plethora of videos on it.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 07, 2016, 10:50:11 PM
Well I have done a few runs of anodizing and with good results . I have come to the conclusion that a parts tumbler would come in handy to expedite matters so I am building one with 5 gallon buckets . I will have videos up on YouTube soon showing my earlier anodizing runs and construction of the rotary parts tumbler. I will post links to the videos as soon as their done.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Litneon on August 08, 2016, 09:54:11 AM
The bracket I built for my trigger wheel is using the same bolts that yours does.  It's worked great for me for almost 4 years now.  I skipped the EDIS setup and went straight to a custom wasted spark setup which is similar, but only uses one coil pack unit.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 15, 2016, 12:32:18 AM
Hi litneon . Glad yours is working good . When I was doing mock up on my truck those bolt holes were the only location that made sense . I didn't want to mount the trigger wheel at the end of the crank damper. I had considered using a Hall effect sensor and having the megasquirt handling the tooth counting but I wanted my setup to be compatible with megajolt as well.I am thinking of making a bracket that uses the hall sensor instead but that will be down the road.  ;D


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 24, 2016, 04:48:21 AM
 WOW editing videos takes forever. I just finished a slide show of the parts tumbler construction. I will have the videos for the anodizing and the tumbler up soon. Until  then check this out. https://youtu.be/Thdh4Nj5uxQ (https://youtu.be/Thdh4Nj5uxQ)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 25, 2016, 12:14:41 AM
well I had to re shoot some of the video for the tumbler. This video goes into what I used for the tumbler and why I used it. I am hoping to have the video up of the anodizing soon. until then check this out. enjoy https://youtu.be/dyJohdXSFo0 (https://youtu.be/dyJohdXSFo0)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 29, 2016, 05:41:27 AM
 I figured I would post some early video of what would be the bracket mocked up and firing the plugs. It's just a cylinder block with the crank and the balancer with the trigger wheel. As I said early video. Enjoy . https://youtu.be/QBdIqo04V9c (https://youtu.be/QBdIqo04V9c)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on December 01, 2016, 02:28:36 AM
 WOW does time fly when you have half a million things going on at once . Between work and the usual chores my free time went to zero. I am Hoping to get back into the edis project beginning Jan. 2017. I finally got some time to edit my video of anodizing. although I'm not showing the conversion brackets in this video it will give you an idea of what is involved.
https://youtu.be/bg8lYlXDp8M (https://youtu.be/bg8lYlXDp8M)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on December 20, 2016, 12:43:55 AM
Well it's official I just mailed my first bracket to its new home in Canada. I wish it's new owner best of luck and hope his project goes well. It's a great way to finish off this year. Next year I start making full bracket kits.

I do have a question for anyone reading this post.
What color would you want to see the bracket anodized in?

I figured I will start with the most popular color .
 The choices are -
Black
Red
Green
Blue
Violet 3D
Or clear anodize


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Litneon on December 31, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
Honestly, black will be the most universal color.  That or clear.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on January 01, 2017, 02:08:55 AM
Thanks for the reply litneon I was surprised not getting any replies or opinions whatsoever. I know it's really slow on this forum this time of the year . But WOW.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Litneon on January 01, 2017, 12:44:50 PM
I'm not complaining, because there is a wealth of knowledge here, but it's always slow...  Haha!

Happy New Year!


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: dfarr67 on January 16, 2017, 04:48:44 PM
I was told this unit was designed with AC brackets in mind, I ended up using studs and shims. I would offer this is black only but offer two versions- one with the Cherry threaded sensor as this would be a more universal fit. One concern is I had the trigger wheel already installed at a 90 deg angle to TDC- this bracket is not 90 deg. Otherwise happy with the results. Dave


(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/22RE_zpsufyfussh.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/Timing_zpsuhevial2.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/IMG_1365_zps6s3vs1jq.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/IMG_1361_zpserlgss5n.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/IMG_1357_zpsdqgbwb6w.jpg)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/dfarr67/IMG_1354_zpsxywkbqyn.jpg)




Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on February 01, 2017, 03:52:01 AM
Well it sounds like black anodize will be the popular choice. I will also have other options available such as stand-offs for non A/C application and different versions for using sensors other then EDIS. That however will be later on this year. First I have to finish getting everything together and doing the CNC conversion on my mill.

I am glad to hear you are happy with the results Dave.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on July 07, 2017, 02:26:42 AM
well I have done most of the cnc conversion . For those of you who have ever been curious about what goes into doing one
I am putting some you tube links to show what mine involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al9gXf86vxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al9gXf86vxo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETFR9-0pRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETFR9-0pRU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C1dlf5kdK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C1dlf5kdK0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXvmJ_Zmprs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXvmJ_Zmprs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_SWR3EsBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_SWR3EsBY)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on August 27, 2017, 01:36:08 AM
  Well it's been awhile since my last post. So I will fill everyone in on whats been going on . I am still dealing with the faulty Y-axis ball screw.
the company I bought the cnc conversion kit from wasn't much help and I have had to order in my ball screw direct from the ball screw manufacturer
unfortunately it will be a few months until I have it in. BUT that doesn't mean I am doing nothing . I am now in the process of designing the bracket
to work with the hall effect sensor sold by diyautotune ( sorry not the adjustable one ). 
  Also I was at a buddy's drag race shop the other day and after seeing the ignition setup on his car (  a Dart block Chevy V-8 ) I asked him why he still
ran a distributor. He then informed me that although he still uses a distributor to tell which cylinder to fire it's actually using a crank mount trigger ( MSD )for the timing thus eliminating all the slop
associated with timing chains and cam to distributor drive gears. So I naturally got to thinking since the
Toyota ignition uses a V.R. sensor I could use the Ford edis sensor with a trigger wheel that has only 2 teeth. This should allow a person with the stock efi computer
to utilize the accuracy of a crank trigger but without having to install an aftermarket efi .

  So I guess my biggest question is this," Is the crank trigger with distributor idea something the 22RTE people interested in"? 


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: dfarr67 on September 05, 2017, 09:33:07 PM
The SBC gen 1 is a bad example- he needs the dizzy to run the oil pump too. I would have been interested in a clean dizzy unit with one sensor mount. I cut off the top of the oem cap and used JB weld to make a new top.


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on January 02, 2018, 02:31:13 AM
well I know it has been a while but I figured I would show my progress.
https://youtu.be/P6L7EV7_Svs (https://youtu.be/P6L7EV7_Svs)


Title: Re: 22RE edis for the masses possible?
Post by: Shanex-2 on March 13, 2018, 02:33:59 AM
 Well some more progress has been made this time for a Hall effect sensor. Unfortunately  it didn't quite go as planned  but it is what it is.https://youtu.be/7AHl9ErLm5o (https://youtu.be/7AHl9ErLm5o)